There was a post yesterday, regarding purchasing of a set and due to the source being from a different place than the one described, some unhappiness over it.
I had made a comment to keep myself in the loop, hoping to come back for a more detailed reply, but the post is missing now. Thanks for reminding me again why I set up this blog.
so.... here is it.
Its true that the price paid was the same as the one agreed upon in the first place. so why should the buyer be unhappy?
Financially, there is not difference to the buyer. The only thing different was that the description of the source of the item is different. It was from LEGOLAND Malaysia instead of locally as described.
To the seller, the difference might be ard 10% difference in the cost.
Lets assumed the seller has bought 2 sets. one locally and the other from LLM. (actually its highly likely the seller bought 2 sets in order to have it in the brown box.) If the seller passed the locally purchased set to the buyer, nothing would have happened. However, in this scenario, the LLM set was passed to the buyer and he found out.
Physically, the buyer has received a slightly less minty box, as there will definitely be bumping ard from its journey from LLM and LLM usually do not release its brown carton. meaning no protection.
Emotionally, This is the part that will bug the buyer most. He trusted the person as a friend, but the friend didn't reciprocate his trust. If the seller had told him the full story before hand, he might have agreed. After all, a builder wont need a minty box. Only a reseller does. The truth was hidden for a purpose. Only the seller will know, whether its intentional or set up.
End of the day, its hard knowing that someone whom you looked upon as a friend, only treats you as a customer. Its not easy...
“Stab the body and it heals, but injure the heart and the wound lasts a
lifetime.”
― Mineko Iwasaki
"This is Facebook, not Friendbook."
― Randy Seah
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Comments
- Sajer Connor Gustavus Lego and philosophy of life.
Now we need a hot cup of green tea to complete it.
- Kenneth Tan Not too sure what the local laws are, but from watching americal arbritration court shows (Jude Judy, Perople's court)
All second source sales are considered "as is" unless specified in contract. Meaning: If the sale advertisment says, lego was hand ...See More
- Jong Ong Fact: why get angry over box condition unless you plan to resell. I've seen people inspect boxes as though they're inspecting diamonds with GIA certificates. Ridiculous
- Lim Li Chin I think randy post meant dun trust any seller to treat you as a friend ? Or dun put friend feeling in sellers ?
- Kay Aik Its buy sell so what do u expect?.do u need to care where is the source when u already agreed to the price??
- Kelvin Tan Maybe the Lego sit aeroplane to Singapore or hand carry to Singapore got difference in inherent value?
- Tommy Chan If it's same SKU the factory source is the same. Unless the buyer had specific liking to us or euro box lol
- Sajer Connor Gustavus Otto Berman, accountant for gangsters: "Nothing personal, it's just business."
When you seek friends for business benefits and discounts, in pursuit of profit and subsidising your sets, you have to keep that in mind, ne?...See More
From "The Godfather" a famous quote from Michael Corleone (Al Pacino): It's not…youtube.com - Lim Li Chin All sellers just put Si bei jalat boxes and source of boxes unknown . This is facebook not friendbook .
- Lai Mun Chun Haiz. Too many grey areas. Not happy don't buy lo. You as a buyer if want to breach trust or break agreement, go ahead. It's not like you bought it from a shop or anything.
- Stephan Wong Is there any different in quality for lego bought in Singapore and Msia? As long we happy and agreed on the price, why bother where it from and how much profit the seller made?
- Keat JL if already agreed on the price and box condition, why upset about the source of the Lego sets? hmmmm.... something must be wrong here....
- Andy Goh Or maybe the Air inside the box will smell different when you open it. That's why the buyer is upset.
- Randy Seah Kekeke if let say seller say help buyer purchase from local store, its helping. If buy from LLM, its profiting. You ppl see wrong place. Its not the box or air or fucking SKU. It's just about the fucking trust.
- Randy Seah If you are the seller and want to pull this kind of stunt, no one saying its wrong. After all, its just business. but you need to deal with it's consequence.
- Joseph Ho methinks Randy's point is the integrity of the information. since seller stated the source of the set. then sold a set with evidence its from a different source. then its just distasteful, and reflects badly on the integrity and mentality of the seller. why need to hide or distort such information. be upfront and state price. go LLM also incurs transport, TOLL, parking, and other fees and charges. nothing free lor.
- LEon Chen When there is buying and selling, there is no real friendship. It is a game. someone win, mean someone loses.
- David Lee Si Chuan Buying selling also got friendship one also leh.. Both agree both win both happy liao. Maybe buyer feels that he quite friend but the seller don't really feel up to friend friend.
- Randy Seah There are also situation when a "seller" sells his stuff to a fellow fan friend at friendly price. The buyer went to mark up 50% (which was still lower than market price) and sold it.
- Stephan Wong I beg to differ. I went to my friend stall for dinner, I paid full price but he got me some extra such as salad or baked potatoes. End of the day, both parties happy and not feeling bad is what really matters...
- Stephan Wong Randy Seah, everyone has a ruler with varies length. I tired to bring the theory to another level but you may not see. Even if my friend did not give me extra salad or potatoes. i will not feel bad either. This is when i talking on the friend level. Fo...See More
- Randy Seah give it a try. smile emoticon see if i can learn from it. if using hawker as base, its like, your friend tells you this fish is from kelong, but actually when you eat, you find that its from a fish farm. same same, but different different.
- Stephan Wong As long I enjoy what he cook. I won't bother where the fish from even if he tell me from kelong, when actually is from fish farm. So come back to lego, I won't even bother to ask as long I like the set.
- Stanley Lim KH so Randy Seah wats your point. are u the buyer or the seller. wat is cavet emptor? can we do a reality check on ourselves before we commit a purchase? even you dun want to buy just walk away loh.
- Randy Seah Stanley Lim KH> i.word.com/idictionary/caveat%20emptor please use simpler terms next time. Very chiem. Let me look through first.
- Vinson Philip Kang The buyer should thoroughly inspect the item before paying.
He shouldn't complain if he had already made payment and brought the item home. Blame it on his own bad luck.
- राजीव मिश्र Honestly though, we don't even know the full details of what happened. Lets not jump to conclusions and put it behind us. The lesson here is that if you have agreed on a price and condition, it doesn't matter how much the seller got it for and from where, unless the source was also agreed upon beforehand.
- Randy Seah we just need to analyse all possible situtations. not pin pointing ppl, but to let others have a better idea what to do when faced with same situation.
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